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NikSpyratos

Nik Spyratos

@NikSpyratos

Not gonna lie... I might rejoin the VSCode group soon.

PHPStorm is great, but... just feels so sluggish for what I get out of it.

The incoming VSC Laravel extension will likely be a great Laravel IDEA equivalent, and with some decent extension setup and better keybindings VSC can achieve most of the same functionality as the rest of PHPStorm.

Especially if you're used to using the CLI for things like git, tests, etc.

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NikSpyratos

Nik Spyratos

@NikSpyratos

If nothing else, I suppose it's also good to remain fluent with all sorts of tools. With company supplied machines and licences, I won't say no anyway 😅

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JonasBrandit

Jonas Camitz-Ryden

@JonasBrandit

I'm on your line, PHPStorm is great but.... If the new extension will be good like IDEA then I'll probably switch back.

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ozdemiru

Ulaş Özdemir

@ozdemiru

memory leaks of vs code extensions drives me crazy that's why I use jetbrains products

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JonasBrandit

Jonas Camitz-Ryden

@JonasBrandit

Hopefully you only need the new Laravel extension so you can delete all memory leaks.

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ozdemiru

Ulaş Özdemir

@ozdemiru

I don't only work with laravel so I have other needs and instead of using vs code and using plugins with the memory leakage problem I prefer using jet brains products for the required stack. So I don't think this extension would solve my problems but I'm sure it's gonna be something amazing.

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NikSpyratos

Nik Spyratos

@NikSpyratos

Memory leaks of Java apps like Jetbrains products drive me crazy too 🙃

IMO there's no way to win with most apps these days except by restarting them regularly.

For my own reasons I ended up on an M1 MBP mostly for battery life, and the CPU does excellently most of the time, but Jetbrains slows to a crawl at times (especially when I'm in a hurry!).

I also like experimenting with different ways of working, "smaller" tools, etc.

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peterramsing

Peter Ramsing

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@peterramsing

I'm still in my PHPStorm trial and I think I'm about to pull the trigger on the full purchase. I do a lot of Node, React, and other work that feels a lot less like my Laravel/PHP code... when I'm in PHPStorm I'm in a different mindset.

I suppose I could look at different VSCode Profiles....

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ozdemiru

Ulaş Özdemir

@ozdemiru

I say definitely go for it! All of the products of jet brains are amazing. Highly customizable. For php storm and laravel combination I highly recommend laracast phpstorm tutorial. Life becomes way easier. Also web storm is very powerful tool for javascript ecosystem.

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peterramsing

Peter Ramsing

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@peterramsing

I love WebStorm! I can use it for Open Source work _only_ since JetBrains gave me a license for my (now aging) open source project LostGrid.

Alright- you convinced me.
<adds to cart>

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NikSpyratos

Nik Spyratos

@NikSpyratos

Oh yeah, I still highly recommend it for most people!

I just like experimenting with things, and doing more with less.

Some things that are still going to be way better with PHPStorm are:

- The intellisense search, which uses machine learning to show the most likely relevant result for what you're searching
- Code inspections by default are pretty good, and even better with the EA Extended plugin

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ozdemiru

Ulaş Özdemir

@ozdemiru

It's funny that I'm having the same problem on VScode and not in phpstorm 😂

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Benjamin

Ben

@Benjamin

I tried PHPStorm for a bit. With VSCode i get so much more done. Welcome back.

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make_dev

Mike

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@make_dev

Ah! I'm open to moving to VS Code. The git tooling in PHP Storm is great though...

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NikSpyratos

Nik Spyratos

@NikSpyratos

Yeah, Jetbrains git UI is one of the most straightforward I've used. Built in DB client also pretty great.

I've been wanting to "git gud" (heh) with git in the terminal anyway, and for most use cases VSC's git UI suffices too. Otherwise there's always SourceTree which I've found to be pretty good as a standalone app.

DB client wise there are some VSC extensions but they're a bit clunky to use, else there's TablePlus (paid), Sequel Ace, SQLite DB browser, etc...

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danielpetrica

Andrei Daniel Petrica

@danielpetrica

After installing zed months ago I reopened it again and tryied to work using it. It hapilly surprised me how much it can do, I think it improved a lot. Is still worse than vscoded and phpstorm, but it's not useless anymore. for quick code reading or small features can be a good code editor I think

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rtrudel

Richard Trudel

@rtrudel

I'm also using it to quickly open text files, as an alternative to `nano`, if I may say so. But it is not yet at the level required for the type of work I need to do at the moment. I hope it will be improved quickly; I really liked Atom, which is somewhat the predecessor of Zed.

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danielpetrica

Andrei Daniel Petrica

@danielpetrica

Ah, I love Atom too! I was at university at the time and even created a little “code highlighter” plugin for the custom assembly language we had. Looking back, it may have been due to my ignorance, but I still remember how good it felt to make that little plugin! 😅

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NikSpyratos

Nik Spyratos

@NikSpyratos

Oh yeah, Zed has been really neat. I've been using it as my Sublime/Atom/VSC alternative when I want a light editor for referencing code while I write in PHPStorm.

Once extension support increases for it, it'll definitely be a good alternative.

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